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#1 iceberg2477

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 09:03 AM

i was just wondering because when i started playing years ago someone told me that once your shop is sized at 50, theres no need to keep increasing.. unless you actually need the space. does that still hold to be true?

#2 Acheron

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 09:05 AM

Um, just use common sense and increase your shop if you are abing items like crazy. Shop size doesn't matter much I suppose if you can wait and store your items in inventory/SDB.

For malls, size definitely matters.

#3 Lychee

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 09:06 AM

Well, it all really depends how much stuff you have to sell. Size 50 doesn't seem that big, though.

#4 Dayzee

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 09:07 AM

Does shop size have anything to do with how quickly your shop shows up on the SW or is it completely random?

#5 Ziz

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 09:11 AM

It really depends on what shops you Ab/Rs.
But if you are going on something like this, then it can be helpful.

Does shop size have anything to do with how quickly your shop shows up on the SW or is it completely random?


From what I've heard, it doesn't. The items get listed from cheaper to more expensive, and then in alphabetical order.

#6 jcrdude

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 09:12 AM

Does shop size have anything to do with how quickly your shop shows up on the SW or is it completely random?


Here is how the wiz is sorted:

1. Every shop is busted into one of 13 categories (based on the first character of the username)
2. When a search is processed, the wiz will (presumably) pick one of the categories at random.
3. The results of the category are sorted by price, then by alphabetical order

In the case of two shop with the same first letter and the same price, the first alphabetical shop will be displayed first.

#7 Dayzee

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 09:18 AM

Here is how the wiz is sorted:

1. Every shop is busted into one of 13 categories (based on the first character of the username)
2. When a search is processed, the wiz will (presumably) pick one of the categories at random.
3. The results of the category are sorted by price, then by alphabetical order

In the case of two shop with the same first letter and the same price, the first alphabetical shop will be displayed first.


Ok thanks. Just wondered since I sometimes refresh SW more than 15 times before my item and price show up. Sucks.

#8 iceberg2477

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 09:21 AM

Well, it all really depends how much stuff you have to sell. Size 50 doesn't seem that big, though.



The reasoning having a shop sized at 50 was so that no matter what way the SW presented lists, you would always be in the top three-ish. i remember that when my shop was around 15 or so and i had the lowest prices for sure, i'd never show up on the SW

#9 Lychee

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 09:31 AM

The reasoning having a shop sized at 50 was so that no matter what way the SW presented lists, you would always be in the top three-ish. i remember that when my shop was around 15 or so and i had the lowest prices for sure, i'd never show up on the SW

I don't remember the SW ever working that way. JCRBoy has a good explanation of the way it works in his post in this thread. It could be that you were presented with the results from a different username group. I know for a fact that you can have a tiny shop and still be the number one hit if you're priced lowest.


#10 Abradix

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 09:38 AM

I've never had a shop bigger than 10 :o

Then again I also play on a few different accounts...

#11 iceberg2477

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 09:45 AM

hmm ok. so is there a way to sell items faster? ive been ABing quite a few things and havent been able to move most it. some things i know won't be sold quickly but others should, like scratchcards n codestones

#12 Abradix

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 09:51 AM

If my shop is filling up I slash prices and post on TC or Shop board. People are willing to resell things for 2k.

#13 Icey Defeat

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 09:51 AM

People with large shops are just compensating for something.

#14 Roxi

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 10:21 AM

For the shop size, just remember that many people don't like browsing through a bunch of pages for one item. As for selling items, post constantly on the shop board. If no one buys within a few days, cut prices a bit until you see sales start to pick up.

#15 Dayzee

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 11:10 AM

People with large shops are just compensating for something.


Haha. Great retort.

For the shop size, just remember that many people don't like browsing through a bunch of pages for one item. As for selling items, post constantly on the shop board. If no one buys within a few days, cut prices a bit until you see sales start to pick up.


I don't use the shop board. It seems like there's a new topic every minute so it seems like your thread would get bumped to page 2 really fast.

#16 jaredennisclark

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 12:05 PM

My shop can hold something like 900 items in it right now. My thought process behind this was that the more individual items I have in my shop, the more likely my shop is to be found because each of those items could potentially be searched for by someone. All the NP I spent on upgrades I made back within 1.5 weeks of my upgrades.

The only thing that sucks is pricing everything. Even with the autopricer things can take 30-40 minutes.

#17 Kido

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 01:52 PM

The largest shop I have is size 6 XD And it's working fine for me right now. If I have a whole bunch of codestones or books or something I stick it all together in a trade and those get bid on pretty fast as well. So far I have no need for a bigger shop

#18 sc4fps3

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 02:00 PM

My shop may be small... but it's big in Japan.

#19 Roxi

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 02:03 PM

My shop may be small... but it's big in Japan.


That made me lol when I read that. Thanks for the laugh.

#20 Kido

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 02:54 PM

Japan stores may be small but there's a shit load of stuff in them :p

#21 sircomflix

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 03:59 PM

Just find the sweetspot size where your inventory levels maintain an equilibrium!

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 04:12 PM

It can be a huge pain if you have way too many items. On my old main I ended up with about 300 unsold items from autobuying.
...lowering your prices beyond .96 also helps. :p

#23 jaredennisclark

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 05:03 PM

Just find the sweetspot size where your inventory levels maintain an equilibrium!


I find that inflating prices by '.88' seems to work best for me. At that point my items sell at about the speed I take them in.

#24 iceberg2477

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Posted 20 January 2011 - 02:27 AM

I find that inflating prices by '.88' seems to work best for me. At that point my items sell at about the speed I take them in.


oh wow.. it didnt even cross my mind to change the inflation :p

well i'll be sure to use all these tips to sell faster . thankx guys

#25 jaredennisclark

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Posted 21 January 2011 - 01:08 AM

oh wow.. it didnt even cross my mind to change the inflation :p

well i'll be sure to use all these tips to sell faster . thankx guys


Well, that IS how you control the prices of items in your shops. I would recommend learning how to use that feature.


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