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[Mr. Hobo]

CONGRATULATIONS EGYPT!

ALL POWER TO THE PEOPLE!

With the overthrow of the 30-yr despot, the Egyptian people have opened the road to a real workers' democracy. The Egyptian Revolution has begun but it has not finished. In order to solve the problems of Egyptian society, it is necessary to break with capitalism, expropriate the capitalists and imperialists and carry out the socialist transformation of society. This is both possible and necessary. The outcome of these demonstrations just go to show the power of working class people!

There has been some pretty awesome inter-religious cooperation but I'm still worried about a Muslim dictatorship emerging after the dust settles

what do you think?

[Warriors]

There has been some pretty awesome inter-religious cooperation but I'm still worried about a Muslim dictatorship emerging after the dust settles

what do you think?

Not to intrude..but you are quite correct..Look at Iran...It is a toss-up, Egypt can go either way, hopefully it does not go the way of Iran did after its revolution..

[Warriors]

Not to racialize, but I've noticed privileged white people love to compare the Egyptian to the '79 Iranian revolution.

First off, I'd like to say that the '79 revolution was a very necessary and progressive action. Its byproducts may not have been, but at the least, it had removed Iran from the pockets of the western imperialists (that's not to suggest that Iranian imperialism doesn't exist today). The difference is that in 1979 Iran, during the time of the armed struggle and revolution, the overwhelming majority of the population was illiterate, and openly demanding Khomeini as their political and religious leader en masse.


The Egyptian people have no such demand. One of the only parallels that exists is the overthrow of a decades-long rule of a despot in the pockets of the Americans and Israelis. All power to the Egyptians to declare the Egyptian political and legislative process as their own, and not something that bows to the demands of western imperialists and those which continue to oppress, torture, kill and impose apartheid on the Arab brothers of the Egyptians in bordering Palestine.

Long live the revolution! Workers of the world unite! We have nothing to lose but our chains!

True(not white at all), but you never know who comes into power, not saying that it will happen but that it simply could...I am not going to take Glenn Beck's position and say all that crap about communism and Islamic fundamentalism

Spoiler

Glenn Beck Rant on Egypt

I'd simply state that it is up to the people but also who they elect and what laws they elect..I'd simply say beware of the military thugs...It really is all up to them on which fate Egypt will choose and so far they have been doing a decent job at making it democratic and we will see if they want to erode the central governmental power by not creating political and economical reforms.

[Gen]

I've been watching/(mostly) reading news about the Egyptian revolution, and imo, the revolutions that mess with my blood are those where even the police and the army gets into the revolution, everyone in the streets screaming for a change, fighting for what they want. The only problem that could occur (and possibly will) is the army actually getting into power and, from my history classes/brazilian experience, this never goes well >_>. Here at Brazil we had a military dictatorship for 21 years (they even tried to make it look like a normal democracy, even though it was obvious it wasnt) and it was terrible for many people, there were entire families disappearing. (Actually, it was terrible in all the countries that had a military dictatorship at South America, which happened around the same time with USA funds). I know these are different times, but we never know. It would be changing a dictator to another. In the other hand, I truly hope that the Egyptian people get what they want!
EDIT: I just read the news
Found out that people are actually still fighting until they have everything they stood for while Mubarak was still the dictator, now the army is the "enemy" haha. I think I'm in love with the Egyptians. (The stupid people at Brazil supported the military dictatorship when it started because they thought that the president by that time was communist. Thankfully most of them see their mistakes >_>)

[samy4612]

guys i dont think muslim brotherhood will do anything they swear that they wont elect themselves to the presidency

[Nunc]

So... interesting new developments. I think Mubarak should've arrested all the protestors and sent them to work camps.

[Mr. Hobo]

So... interesting new developments. I think Mubarak should've arrested all the protestors and sent them to work camps.

What happened to their rights to form a theocracy?

[Persuasion]

Anarchy. Not to start an arguement (maybe), but what if it's the better decision to loose some of your right while keeping stability and peace?

If this ends badly, I wonder what you guys would be saying then. Sometime stability and choosing to live with your head low is a better way. They're a chinieese proverb, the bent nail gets put down. OR, the Opposite American phrase, the sqeeky wheel gets the gas Both are very true

[jcrdude]

Anarchy. Not to start an arguement (maybe), but what if it's the better decision to loose some of your right while keeping stability and peace?

If this ends badly, I wonder what you guys would be saying then. Sometime stability and choosing to live with your head low is a better way. They're a chinieese proverb, the bent nail gets put down. OR, the Opposite American phrase, the sqeeky wheel gets the gas Both are very true

I can agree with this to an extent... but at the same time, there's a level of social responsibility whereby if the common man is being mistreated, one must do what they can to stop it.

I'm not supporting having an uprising every time something doesn't go a people's way, but Egypt has had the same leader for far too long for it to be considered a coincidence. If the President suddenly declared that it was okay for him to serve 20 years straight... damn right I would be out there trying to overturn the corrupt system that was keeping him in place.

If another corrupt system comes into power in the ensuing vacuum, then they know that the people are still prepared to rise up again... and their reign will be short-lived.

[Smurfy2k]

I think it true is a inspiration that if your united as a nation, what you can do

[Nunc]

What happened to their rights to form a theocracy?

I would've simply liked to see a civil war between Mubarak+Israel vs. the Egyptian Army of Islam

I support the Islams more, though, just so you know.

[ToxicS]

Mubarak is about to get away with the billions money he stole, sign here to prevent him http://www.avaaz.org...585af8a26e783a3

[Waser Lave]

Mubarak is about to get away with the billions money he stole, sign here to prevent him http://www.avaaz.org...585af8a26e783a3

Yeah because an online petition will definitely stop that happening.

[ToxicS]

Yeah because an online petition will definitely stop that happening.

Whatever, it doesn't hurt.

[Waser Lave]

Whatever, it doesn't hurt.

Nor does homoeopathy, although they are equally effective.

[Nunc]

<br/>Yeah because an online petition will definitely stop that happening.<br/>

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QFT, +rep

[MisterDerp]

Yeah because an online petition will definitely stop that happening.

But lyke, it worked for that kid who complained the Loonatics characters looked creepy without pupils!!1!