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[rizler]

ok so which do you think is safer AoB (or other Flash game cheaters)
OR
Score Sender (SS)


This was my take on it
AoB yeh its like your playing the game with some tweaks to your advantage BUT seeing as you have those advantages you may play the game super quick.
Like for example ill use Snowmuncher.
Theres a cheat so you get NO bloat. Now people could just keep hold of the down arrow and Spacebar and speed through levels till they get a score they want, even if it is below review. BUT then they had played the game too quick and unrealisticly therefore they could still get a review for the speed of how they played.

SS your not playing the game so it obviously seems like the choice that youd think to be is more noticable if you cheat or not
but when people SS they seem to take more care like enter good times of playing and good scores which any human can reach as well as play it more then once to recieve the score they want. But if you do happen to get a review then your pretty much 100% frozen
as if you were to use AoB theres a chance you dont get frozen

whats your take on it?


also please move to Neopets general chat section if you think it belongs there. i put it here because its a debate but its about neopets so not sure

[jcrdude]

If both are used correctly, I would think that they have about the same chance of freeze: low but still existent.

Playing with AOB avoids the impossible scores caused by multipliers... but opens up the possibility of impossibly high or fast scores.

When properly researched, Scoresender is just as effective, but with more research, and no effort playing the game.

[Boggart]

I'm gonna go with AoB just for a few reasons

1) Many people 'ef up and do wrong multipliers in SS'ing way too often.
2) AOB forces you to sit at your computer and do stuff, thus you you won't be browsing or doing other shit like you might be tempted to/forget when SS'ing (even browsing with other accounts while SS'ing)
3) Some people SS for hours at a time, which is dumb i.m.o. AoB makes you sit there and you'd probably get sick of it after half an hour anyway

[Junsu]

AoB is definitely safer, but there isnt a code for every single game

[Persuasion]

Boggart beat me to it... SS takes a little understanding and information to do correctly while AOB prevent that...

-Though, for simplicity, I'd say use SS just because it's easier and if you know what you're doing

[jcrdude]

Boggart beat me to it... SS takes a little understanding and information to do correctly while AOB prevent that...

-Though, for simplicity, I'd say use SS just because it's easier and if you know what you're doing

So basically...

If you want to start cheating right this second, use AOB.

If you take the time to research (or let someone else do it for you), SS.

People who use money making lists for SS are silly anyway, so I try to eliminate that demographic as soon as possible

[RKO]

If both are used correctly, I would think that they have about the same chance of freeze: low but still existent.

Playing with AOB avoids the impossible scores caused by multipliers... but opens up the possibility of impossibly high or fast scores.

When properly researched, Scoresender is just as effective, but with more research, and no effort playing the game.

its very simple when you know what you are doing. SS all the way!

[iamlost26]

I think the potential for mistakes in both cases are pretty high. With SS, if you put something in the wrong field, or put too high a score/too short a time, you'll get reviewed. However, the benefit is that if you have all the facts (like what the review score is and what a natural time is), there is little possibility of things going wrong. With AoB, it usually looks more real; like a person is actually doing it... but it's easy to get lulled in a false sense of security, and thus surpass a review score by accident because of how easy the game is, or, as said above, too fast a time.

Personally, the only time I've ever gotten frozen was from using AoB and accidentally hitting Send Score for a review score. I haven't gotten frozen SS yet (but that may change any day now

[Persuasion]

I think the scoresending research is auctually less work than useing AoB... Anyone disagree? I haven't used AoB, but I've know sort of how it works Seems complicated/busy work compared to entering some numbers in the SS

[Islane]

No it's very easy to use the AoB thing. It's very well explained in the guide. And if you use your common sense and play normally, it feels very safe.
I earned some trophies with it.

[rizler]

also id just like to note that ive used SS and AoB before and i know how to work them properly i was just wondering also might do some stats on it too

[Persuasion]

MMkay, Maybe I'll try it I'll search it in the guide section... I've gotten several trophies for SS and gotten away with it pretty easily Though one mistake could cost it all

[Islane]

The main thing while using those tools is common sense. That's all. Don't be too confident

[Sage]

The tie-breaker for me is that TNT occasionally reviews scores at random. If you're SSing when they do that, you are proper fucked, no matter how safe the score and the time are.

AoB or a multitrainer (same thing except pre-programmed)? As long as you weren't being retarded and waited a bit before you sent the scores, you'll be fine.

[jcrdude]

The tie-breaker for me is that TNT occasionally reviews scores at random. If you're SSing when they do that, you are proper fucked, no matter how safe the score and the time are.

AoB or a multitrainer (same thing except pre-programmed)? As long as you weren't being retarded and waited a bit before you sent the scores, you'll be fine.

You are? Score reviews for score-sent games work the same as actually playing the game... that would be the point of the score sender... properly emulating the same data sent as actually playing the game.

[iamlost26]

You are? Score reviews for score-sent games work the same as actually playing the game... that would be the point of the score sender... properly emulating the same data sent as actually playing the game.

Agreed. The only reason Score Senders work is because TNT only gets 3 pieces of information when you play a flash game: How long the game was open, How many points you got, and what the GameID is. They check those things to make sure they all make sense during a review, so even if your score is above review, as long as you waited a reasonable amount of time, then you should be okay.

[Sage]

Hmm. Maybe my luck was just very off, then. My times were always rather generously erring on the side of caution, and I never posted a score I knew was above review. Always got caught.

[Ladida]

What would happen if you were browsing on another account while SSing? That would result in the same IP, which can happen if you're using a home network. I've actually done that.. I didn't realise it could be dangerous o.o;; I guess I can see why it is, even if you can explain it away by having a bajillion siblings all playing Neopets at home.

[chaoprokia]

AOB is safer where u are monitoring it and regulate the flow rather then setting time to it.

[iomega]

I dont know if this is true so feel free to correct me if im wrong, but i think AoB is safer
simply because the data is being sent from the browser i use to surf neopets normally, whereas the SSer would use different a different header.
if a score does get reviewed, among the time taken and the score, i think my usual browser header would make it seem more legit.
again, i have no idea if TNT can see the browser header... but it makes me feel that much safer...

[rizler]

after some research
i think SS is safer if you use it correctly eg time,score etc..
the things you send is your choice and i recommend that you should do some research check forums/topics and all to find the best time and score to send


because AoB when you cheat you usually speed through it therefore being quicker than the average person and more likely to be found as a cheater


from my own personal experience i played korbats lab legit to 12k i was revied and then it was accepted and got gold 2nd of month (my main 80months)
i did the same the next month with a SS i recorded my legit time and score and sent it i got gold on my side account (my side 14months)
i did the same again the next 2nd of the month with a AoB same score but i did not record the time it was probably shorter but not that much shorter i think it was about 7mins. I did this on another side and was frozen (14months)

this shows that SS is safer then AoB
i kept the score for the legit screenshot and for the AoB wasnt sure on what to screenshot on the SS (maybe i shouldve done TNTs mail and settings >_<).

[Hurricane]

with my past luck i find ss to be way safer using a proper list which you would have to make yourself.

[liquidflames]

I personally use the AoB because I haven't completely figured out all the specifics of SS. When I play with AoB I still take my time playing the game so I don't get a highscore too quick ( like snowmuncher for example). But I probably will do SS once I find out more about it.

[rizler]

I personally use the AoB because I haven't completely figured out all the specifics of SS. When I play with AoB I still take my time playing the game so I don't get a highscore too quick ( like snowmuncher for example). But I probably will do SS once I find out more about it.

i think its Jcrboy who has a brillian guide in his siggy maybe you should take a look at it

some games i think its better with AoB like ice cream factory seeing as you cant SPEED up the game. it goes at its own pace all the time

Edited by rizler, 07 March 2011 - 11:49 AM.

[liquidflames]

i think its Jcrboy who has a brillian guide in his siggy maybe you should take a look at it

some games i think its better with AoB like ice cream factory seeing as you cant SPEED up the game. it goes at its own pace all the time

I looked at his guide a few times. I actually tried it once with a few games. once it completed the list and "sent" the scores, I never got a notice that the scores were sent succesfully, and thus didn't receive any NP for them. so i dont know if i didnt do something right or what.