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[willy101]

Why can't you just use javascript - greasemonkey?

Any javascript experts here?

[Waser Lave]

You can use javascript and greasemonkey to create Neopets programs, there's no real way to protect the source though.

[RitzWin]

Python allows you to do basically anything you want using various libraries.  Browser based scripts are not as capable   I don't want to leave firefox open while botting ... unless it's a small easy script- for which I normally use selenium- but to each his own.

[artificial]

You can use javascript and greasemonkey to create Neopets programs, there's no real way to protect the source though.

 

Nor can you in Python. 

[Waser Lave]

Nor can you in Python. 

 

Obviously not entirely but it's still slightly better than greasemonkey.

[Eefi]

I use a few convenience scripts on my main since this is the account that my browser is logged into all the time. It would be annoying to have a different browser open to do stuff on other accounts.

[willy101]

I did the steps in the python tutorial but i find that i'm nowhere near prepped enough to code anything for real. any tips on some other tutorials or problems i can try to improve my knowledge?

[RitzWin]

I did the steps in the python tutorial but i find that i'm nowhere near prepped enough to code anything for real. any tips on some other tutorials or problems i can try to improve my knowledge?

I found I learned the most in projects where I was self-motivated to improve.

I'm lucky since I use python at my job, but I learned a lot on my own at home.

One of my first personal projects was creating a multiplayer online card game that I'd invented.  Then moved on to neopets botting- another passion of mine

 

I'd highly suggest taking a passion of yours and somehow making it into a program.  And realize it won't come overnight- baby steps is the best way to improve (setting achievable goals).  Also investing in a book on good programming (regardless of the language) is a GREAT investment.  I've saved myself countless hours of frustration by reading "Clean code".

[willy101]

I found I learned the most in projects where I was self-motivated to improve.

I'm lucky since I use python at my job, but I learned a lot on my own at home.

One of my first personal projects was creating a multiplayer online card game that I'd invented.  Then moved on to neopets botting- another passion of mine

 

I'd highly suggest taking a passion of yours and somehow making it into a program.  And realize it won't come overnight- baby steps is the best way to improve (setting achievable goals).  Also investing in a book on good programming (regardless of the language) is a GREAT investment.  I've saved myself countless hours of frustration by reading "Clean code".

I'll check it out thanks. I'm actually trying to write a script that will play blackjack for me on another of my favorite sites. I calculated the odds and it seems that in the long run the player has a 0.1% advantage lol

[artificial]

I'll check it out thanks. I'm actually trying to write a script that will play blackjack for me on another of my favorite sites. I calculated the odds and it seems that in the long run the player has a 0.1% advantage lol

 

That's a generous blackjack table

[soundrecorder]

Python is simple to use, easily extensible, and it makes sense for compatibility purposes. It's what I would use at least.

[data]

Python is easy to program in, powerful, has extensive libraries and is cross platform.

[hindubomber]

Python is easy because it's a very lazy language. It tends to be taught to first years in University because it's so easy to pick up.

[Ladida]

We were taught C and data structures using C as our introduction into programming. I've never been motivated to learn Python, even though I probably should I always figured the first language shouldn't be a "lazy" one, since it would already have libraries, so you would have everything handed to you without learning how those functions were made to work.

[Jiayu]

We were taught C and data structures using C as our introduction into programming. I've never been motivated to learn Python, even though I probably should I always figured the first language shouldn't be a "lazy" one, since it would already have libraries, so you would have everything handed to you without learning how those functions were made to work.

 

My school is similar, they start everyone with Java to get used to a strongly typed language as it will be easier to go from that to a lazier language than the other way around. They are actually starting to switch the intro courses to Python though as students feel like they can get more accomplished with minimal programming experience due to all of the libraries. In my opinion which direction to take really depends on how functionally literate a programmer you want to be.

[Hinth]

My school is similar, they start everyone with Java to get used to a strongly typed language as it will be easier to go from that to a lazier language than the other way around. They are actually starting to switch the intro courses to Python though as students feel like they can get more accomplished with minimal programming experience due to all of the libraries. In my opinion which direction to take really depends on how functionally literate a programmer you want to be.

Yeah same here, we picked up java as a little intro course but we're diving into python now since its supposedly one of the easier languages

[Inida]

I feel like a dunce for using autoit

[Waser Lave]

I feel like a dunce for using autoit

 

There's nothing wrong with using a scripting language like that for some things.