16 replies to this topic

[Camburger]

Is there any way in which the AB will not update the neocodex item database? Because thats the only thing i am worried about right now.

[Nano]

Are you saying you don't want the ABer to update the database? I believe the database is updated with the total stock of a shop, not the items purchased. Therefore no real way to trace it to being AB'd.

[Camburger]

I thought if you bought an item, the database shows it as being "Seen a minute ago" or similar to that.am i wrong?

[Outsider]

I thought if you bought an item, the database shows it as being "Seen a minute ago" or similar to that.am i wrong?

It does. What's wrong with that?

[Camburger]

Someone looks on here after missing the item and sees "Seen a minute ago" then searches on trading post and sees mine on tp

[Nano]

I thought if you bought an item, the database shows it as being "Seen a minute ago" or similar to that.am i wrong?

 

It does. But I believe the database gets updated with just the shop stock at the time of refresh. Not when a single item is bought. So even if you didn't update the database, someone else would.

[Camburger]

Oh i see now, ok, thank you!

[Nano]

Might want to check just in case with one of the site programmers. But I believe that's how it works.

[Bones]

 

Someone looks on here after missing the item and sees "Seen a minute ago" then searches on trading post and sees mine on tp

dont be worried just coz its seen a minute ago does not prove you used an aber to buy it.  it could have been another person using an aber and the aber saw the item.

[pancakeface]

It's also a matter of when you're posting items up to sell. Even in legit RS, plenty of people sit on their items for a bit before they sell, just because yours is on the TP doesn't mean anything since you can't check times. If you don't feel comfortable about it, when for a random amount of time between purchases before putting them up for sale.

[Alexiel]

And of course there's also the fact that (at least when multiple people are selling the same item) usually within a few hours someone has closed their old lot and reposted it to stay on top of the Newly Listed search. Just because you're at the top of the Newly Posted list doesn't necessarily mean your item is freshly bought.

[copperhaxor]

In honestly I don't think neopets staff care enough to stalk the neocodex database like that, It is likely they are just told to ban X amount of suspect accounts within a time frame.

They know they can't win but only slow it down. Bit like the police force.

[KaibaSama]

They can win actually. There are plenty of anti cheating stuff that TNT could implement, which would kill off automatons. They're just too lazy to do it

I think they're both lazy, and don't know how to implement it. They couldn't take the site out of the 90's, could they? It's been stuck as it is for a while now. No changes or anything.

So how could they implement something that's probably much more complicated?

[Waser Lave]

Actually, they experimented extensively to battle against autobuyers back in the 2004s. TNT kept changing the captchas until they settled with the one they use currently. Not sure why they stopped back then

 

Probably because we beat every one, usually within a few hours. The current one is, and has been since introduction, fatally flawed and very, very easily beaten. It's a tiny bit of a design flaw when your captcha is much more of an impediment to manual players than automated ones.

[copperhaxor]

^

Made me laugh, V good point though hah. If anything it just gives AB even more time advantage over players.

[Pyro699]

I am not sure what has really been assumed here but let me lay it out.

 

Once every, oh lets say 10 minutes, the program manager polls our site to get a few items to price out from the database - the usrs of the program manager then use the shopwizard a few times to try and gauge an aprox price for it (we use some "advanced logic" to get a proper price) and then that is sent to the database. I am not sure what the useage of the program manager is now, but it use to be such that the entire database would get repriced weekly.

[zbarnwell]

An update would be awesome!