31 replies to this topic

[Ilya]

Do you believe in G-d giving you tests?
Like difficulties in life, to see if you pass it or not?

[Bryan]

No

[Ilya]

why not?

[pyke]

I don't think so. If its so, then gods an asshole, for condemning so many people to crippling tests.

[Anarchist]

woah dude i know its your own opinion but how that down you dont have to insult god like that just because you dont believe in him, i couldnt care less what you believe in but you would never hear me insult ur believes and yes i believe in him even though i dont think he made us in his image because there is to many hediens and pimps, players, prostitute and to many sin but oh well.

[Inside Of You]

No.
And pyke is right.

[Ilya]

I think yes..
How did g-d gave test to Abraham one of the jewish 4 fathers, a test to kill his son?

[Sean]

woah dude i know its your own opinion but how that down you dont have to insult god like that just because you dont believe in him, i couldnt care less what you believe in but you would never hear me insult ur believes and yes i believe in him even though i dont think he made us in his image because there is to many hediens and pimps, players, prostitute and to many sin but oh well.

..And anarchists.

He also never said he didn't believe in God, he simply said that he doesn't think that God puts people through tests. And if he did, then he wouldn't be a very nice person/thing.

[pyke]

woah dude i know its your own opinion but how that down you dont have to insult god like that just because you dont believe in him, i couldnt care less what you believe in but you would never hear me insult ur believes and yes i believe in him even though i dont think he made us in his image because there is to many hediens and pimps, players, prostitute and to many sin but oh well.

I didn't say anything about not believing. I just don't think that if there is a god, that they are trying to put people through trials. Doesn't make sense that he would let some people by easily (paris hilton anyone?), yet would put so many people through terrible hardships (most the world anyone?)

Edit: Spooky, sean answered for me

[Inside Of You]

I think yes..
How did g-d gave test to Abraham one of the jewish 4 fathers, a test to kill his son?

Because I don't believe the Bible to be true. I think the Bible was a book someone wrote as like a bedtime story or something. I just don't believe in organized religion and the such.

I'm agnostic.

Please don't think I'm trying to offend anyone here.

[Sean]

I didn't say anything about not believing. I just don't think that if there is a god, that they are trying to put people through trials. Doesn't make sense that he would let some people by easily (paris hilton anyone?), yet would put so many people through terrible hardships (most the world anyone?)

Edit: Spooky, sean answered for me

I stalk you.
But don't worry, It's a healthy obsession.

[pyke]

I think yes..
How did g-d gave test to Abraham one of the jewish 4 fathers, a test to kill his son?

I don't take the bible literally. I believe that much of it is stories set with lessons and morals to set your moral guidelines to

[Amagius]

No, as I don't believe in God or any god for that matter.

[Bryan]

This is going to turn into a discussion about religious beliefs. Lovely -_-

[Hydrogen]

Do you believe in G-d giving you tests?
Like difficulties in life, to see if you pass it or not?

Of course. Allah (swt) says in the Qur'an: "Be sure we will test you with something of fear and hunger, a small loss in wealth and lives and the fruits (of your labors), but give glad tidings to those who patiently persevere, when afflicted with calamities, to God we belong and to Him shall we return."' (Chapter 2:15, 5-157).

[pyke]

Of course. Allah (swt) says in the Qur'an: "Be sure we will test you with something of fear and hunger, a small loss in wealth and lives and the fruits (of your labors), but give glad tidings to those who patiently persevere, when afflicted with calamities, to God we belong and to Him shall we return."' (Chapter 2:15, 5-157).

It seems like this hardly applies evenly to people though. Many people get by with ease and seemingly no challenges whatsoever. Yet on the flip side of this there are those that starve to death and rot from diseases they did nothing to recieve. Surely the large imbalance can't be due to lack of faith.

I have difficulty believing we are being watched over by a god, when there are so many things wrong with this world.

[Hydrogen]

It seems like this hardly applies evenly to people though. Many people get by with ease and seemingly no challenges whatsoever. Yet on the flip side of this there are those that starve to death and rot from diseases they did nothing to recieve. Surely the large imbalance can't be due to lack of faith.

I have difficulty believing we are being watched over by a god, when there are so many things wrong with this world.

Its based on perspective. Some may have more and some may have less. You only see the present and not what they have been through before...

it all depends

[Cataliste]

No. I feel the whole test thing in the Bible(s) are just meant to tell people to percevere.

If God does actually tes tpeople like this, I feel it's very mean. Sorta like a kid with an ant farm.

[cpvr]

Who is G-d? God? Maybe.

[ShadowLink64]

Who is G-d? God? Maybe.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's what he means (judging by the spelling anyways).

[Hawk]

Because I don't believe the Bible to be true. I think the Bible was a book someone wrote as like a bedtime story or something. I just don't believe in organized religion and the such.

Why believe that? People normally always want facts proving the Bible true, but this time Im going to ask for something disproving the Bible as a factual piece of history.

What is wrong with organized religion too? Im against Catholicism as an organized religion as many of their teachings stray WAY to far from the Bible. I am, however, part of the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod (WELS for short), so I guess that could be considered organized religion.

-----------My response----------

He definately tests us. Satan throws his best at us, God protects us, although we are sinful and bad things will happen. The biggest test though is keeping your faith- if you fail that you are kinda screwed, for eternity .

[Hydrogen]

He definately tests us. Satan throws his best at us, God protects us, although we are sinful and bad things will happen. The biggest test though is keeping your faith- if you fail that you are kinda screwed, for eternity .

I agree

[Malicious]

I don't think so. If its so, then gods an asshole, for condemning so many people to crippling tests.

It's a perspective.

Your post insulted me - I'd except less blindsight from a supermoderator

Crippling tests are shows of faith, If you can live your live entirely believing in God, then you've passed his tests.

[Cataliste]

And this is why religious debates are not allowed. I see borderline flaming going on. WIth more soon to start.

It's a perspective.

Your post insulted me - I'd except less blindsight from a supermoderator

Crippling tests are shows of faith, If you can live your live entirely believing in God, then you've passed his tests.

Oops. I guess I failed. I wish someone would have told me sooner, I would have studied.

[Hydrogen]

It's a perspective.

Your post insulted me - I'd except less blindsight from a supermoderator

Crippling tests are shows of faith, If you can live your live entirely believing in God, then you've passed his tests.

On NeoCodex, everyone's religious beliefs are respected. Try not to be offended as its only his belief and you are entitled to your own just as he is entitled to his.

If you want to talk more about the issue, please PM me . We can take care of it together