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#1 Nick

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Posted 03 April 2007 - 11:14 AM

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After reading it again, I suppose I have a new outlook on the article. It's good that it's becoming normal, but this is also in Massachusetts (hello, we're the only state to legalize gay marriage), and why does this kid get an article? Isn't our goal as homosexuals, TG's, etc. to become considered normal? How can we possibly be considered normal if we get articles that focus on our sexuality making it seem so absurd that something has to written about it?

I guess another point I'd like to bring up is that this kid didn't really endure any hardship when he was in the closet and after he came out. I know guys that have been thrown out of their home after their parents found out about their sexuality - that seems like it would be more effective then a short biography on some kid who just happened to be gay and nothing in his life became significantly worse after people found out. Sending the message that his life was better after he came out suggests that there's nothing wrong America's few on the homosexual population when there is.

Also, the thing about the girl telling everyone had to be expected, right? I mean, when I came out at my old school it spread like wildfire, and here at my current school when people discovered that I was, it also got around quickly.

Yeah, I've changed my viewpoint on this article. This kid is a legit attentionwhore.
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ONE month before Zach O’Connor, a seventh grader at Brown Middle School here, came out about being gay, he was in such turmoil that he stood up in homeroom and, in a voice everyone could hear, asked a girl out on a date. It was Valentine’s Day 2003, and Zach was 13.

“I was doing this to survive,” he says. “This is what other guys were doing, getting girlfriends. I should get one, too.”

He feared his parents knew the truth about him. He knew that his father had typed in a Google search starting with “g,” and several other recent “g” searches had popped up, including “gay.”

“They asked me, ‘Do you know what being gay is?’ ” he recalls. “They tried to explain there’s nothing wrong with it. I put my hands over my ears. I yelled: ‘I don’t want to hear it! I’m not, I’m not gay!’ ”

Cindy and Dan O’Connor were very worried about Zach. Though bright, he was doing poorly at school. At home, he would pick fights, slam doors, explode for no reason. They wondered how their two children could be so different; Matt, a year and a half younger, was easygoing and happy. Zach was miserable.

The O’Connors had hunches. Mr. O’Connor is a director of business development for American Express, Ms. O’Connor a senior vice president of a bank, and they have had gay colleagues, gay bosses, classmates who came out after college. From the time Zach was little, they knew he was not a run-of-the-mill boy. His friends were girls or timid boys.

“Zach had no interest in throwing a football,” Mr. O’Connor says. But their real worry was his anger, his unhappiness, his low self-esteem. “He’d say: ‘I’m not smart. I’m not like other kids,’ ” says Ms. O’Connor. The middle-school psychologist started seeing him daily.

The misery Zach caused was minor compared with the misery he felt. He says he knew he was different by kindergarten, but he had no name for it, so he would stay to himself. He tried sports, but, he says, “It didn’t work out well.” He couldn’t remember the rules. In fifth grade, when boys at recess were talking about girls they had crushes on, Zach did not have someone to name.

By sixth grade, he knew what “gay” meant, but didn’t associate it with himself. That year, he says: “I had a crush on one particular eighth-grade boy, a very straight jock. I knew whatever I was feeling I shouldn’t talk about it.” He considered himself a broken version of a human being. “I did think about suicide,” he says.

Then, for reasons he can’t wholly explain beyond pure desperation, a month after his Valentine “date” — “We never actually went out, just walked around school together” — in the midst of math class, he told a female friend. By day’s end it was all over school. The psychologist called him in. “I burst into tears,” he recalls. “I said, ‘Yes, it’s true.’ Every piece of depression came pouring out. It was such a mess.”

That night, when his mother got home from work, she stuck her head in his room to say hi. “I said, ‘Ma, I need to talk to you about something, I’m gay.’ She said, ‘O.K., anything else?’ ‘No, but I just told you I’m gay.’ ‘O.K., that’s fine, we still love you.’ I said, ‘That’s it?’ I was preparing for this really dramatic moment.”

Ms. O’Connor recalls, “He said, ‘Mom, aren’t you going to freak out?’ I said: ‘It’s up to you to decide who to love. I have your father, and you have to figure out what’s best for you.’ He said, ‘Don’t tell Dad.’ ”

“Of course I told him,” Ms. O’Connor says.

“With all our faults,” Mr. O’Connor says, “we’re in this together.”

Having a son come out so young was a lot of work for the parents. They found him a therapist who is gay 20 miles away in New Haven. The therapist helped them find a gay youth group, OutSpoken, a 50-minute drive away in Norwalk.

Dan Woog, a writer and longtime soccer coach at Staples High in Westport, helped found OutSpoken in 1993. He says for the first 10 years, the typical member was 17 to 22 years old. “They’d come in saying: ‘I’m gay. My life is over,’ ” Mr. Woog says. “One literally hyperventilated walking through the door.”

But in recent years, he says, the kids are 14 to 17 and more confident. “They say: ‘Hi, I’m gay. How do I meet people?’ ”

Edited by Urban, 03 April 2007 - 05:29 PM.


#2 Kail

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Posted 03 April 2007 - 11:23 AM

wow, Coming out at 13..its a good thing that young people can feel more confident about these things so .

**never knew they had special clubs for gay ppl**

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Posted 03 April 2007 - 11:27 AM

That must be hard to know you're something that society doesn't accept, especially at a young age.

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Posted 03 April 2007 - 11:33 AM

Meh it seems he made his own life hell by worring about it too much, tbh i dont think that many people care if your gay or not anymore, the line as clear nemore

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Posted 03 April 2007 - 11:34 AM

blink.gif Well, the girl is a bitch, and deserves to have the living shit beat out of her. The ridicule from not liking sports is normal 1we8.gif And why does he get famous for being gay? Everyone, I'm straight wink.gif I want a news article xD I'm sure this kind of stuff happens every now and again 1we8.gif We don't need an article for every gay person.

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Posted 03 April 2007 - 11:56 AM

QUOTE(Pomroy / Trixx @ Apr 3 2007, 03:34 PM) View Post
blink.gif Well, the girl is a bitch, and deserves to have the living shit beat out of her. The ridicule from not liking sports is normal 1we8.gif And why does he get famous for being gay? Everyone, I'm straight wink.gif I want a news article xD I'm sure this kind of stuff happens every now and again 1we8.gif We don't need an article for every gay person.


You know what your saying is the equivalent of of saying why should Rosa Parks be famous? I'm white, watch me stand up to a bus driver. OH WAIT! That's totally acceptable, I forgot.

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Posted 03 April 2007 - 12:03 PM

Both of you knock it off.

Sorry, I don't have anything to say related to this topic. Everyone knows my views against homosexuality. I'm not in the mood to get in a homosexuality debate or any shit like that. I do not want to start any problems and like I said, Urban and Pomroy, knock it off. Sadly if any flaming breaks out I'll have to defend Urban sad.gif Since Pomroy instigated. dry.gif

Edited by Hawk, 03 April 2007 - 12:04 PM.


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Posted 03 April 2007 - 12:05 PM

Knock what off? This isn't a debate, it's just an article.

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Posted 03 April 2007 - 12:10 PM

*doesn't post*

Though, I would like to make an amusing aside by saying that Rosa Parks made her point by sitting down to a bus driver, rather than standing up to him tongue.gif

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Posted 03 April 2007 - 12:11 PM

QUOTE(Urban @ Apr 3 2007, 03:05 PM) View Post
Knock what off? This isn't a debate, it's just an article.

His little shot at you and you and then your sarcastic response. If I get involved it will become a debate.

QUOTE(Sunscorch @ Apr 3 2007, 03:10 PM) View Post
*doesn't post*

Though, I would like to make an amusing aside by saying that Rosa Parks made her point by sitting down to a bus driver, rather than standing up to him tongue.gif

Smart ass.

Edited by Hawk, 03 April 2007 - 12:10 PM.


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Posted 03 April 2007 - 12:12 PM

QUOTE(Sunscorch @ Apr 3 2007, 04:10 PM) View Post
*doesn't post*

Though, I would like to make an amusing aside by saying that Rosa Parks made her point by sitting down to a bus driver, rather than standing up to him tongue.gif


Lol. That shouldn't be funny, but it is. tongue.gif

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Posted 03 April 2007 - 12:13 PM

QUOTE(Hawk @ Apr 3 2007, 08:11 PM) View Post
Smart ass.

Awh... you love me really tongue.gif

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Posted 03 April 2007 - 12:16 PM

Okay, okay, back on topic. Post your reaction to the article, no debates related to or unrelated to the article. Please refrain from making a comment like Pomroy's.

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Posted 03 April 2007 - 12:24 PM

QUOTE(Sunscorch @ Apr 3 2007, 03:13 PM) View Post
Awh... you love me really tongue.gif

You got me hug.gif 1we8.gif

QUOTE(Urban @ Apr 3 2007, 03:16 PM) View Post
Okay, okay, back on topic. Post your reaction to the article, no debates related to or unrelated to the article. Please refrain from making a comment like Pomroy's.

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Posted 03 April 2007 - 12:52 PM

QUOTE(Urban @ Apr 3 2007, 02:56 PM) View Post
You know what your saying is the equivalent of of saying why should Rosa Parks be famous? I'm white, watch me stand up to a bus driver. OH WAIT! That's totally acceptable, I forgot.

There's a difference. People don't get arrested for saying they're gay. Personally I think he made his own stress as well and I don't think it's that big of a deal. A lot of people get funny looks by people and I got teased horribly all throughout middle school and I never got an article. I mean really... go through what? He doesn't seem to have that much tormet caused by his own classmates so... what the hell is so bad about it? He felt different, I did too. People teased me because of my physical appearance which was much more obvious. There are millions of children like him who feel akward inside and some are really bullied harshly. I don't see how this is much different.

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Posted 03 April 2007 - 01:49 PM

Slow news days ftw?

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Posted 03 April 2007 - 01:52 PM

QUOTE(CaluM @ Apr 3 2007, 10:49 PM) View Post
Slow news days ftw?

I'd rather hear about waterskiing canaries, like from Harry Potter xD

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Posted 03 April 2007 - 02:19 PM

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Soo young, that's too bad. I was hoping it wouldn't get to our kids, but I guess it is now sad.gif

Low blow... low blow...

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Posted 03 April 2007 - 02:25 PM

QUOTE(AliasXNeo @ Apr 3 2007, 10:17 PM) View Post
Soo young, that's too bad. I was hoping it wouldn't get to our kids, but I guess it is now sad.gif


OH NOES! THE HOMOSEXUALITUS IS INFECTING US ALL! KEEP YOUR BACK TO THE WALL AND RUN BEFORE YOU CATCH IT!

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Honestly. Some people just amuse me.

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Posted 03 April 2007 - 02:29 PM

QUOTE(Kimoflea @ Apr 3 2007, 11:25 PM) View Post
OH NOES! THE HOMOSEXUALITUS IS INFECTING US ALL! KEEP YOUR BACK TO THE WALL AND RUN BEFORE YOU CATCH IT!

rolleyes.gif

Honestly. Some people just amuse me.

I thought it was better to stay as still as possible because it reacts to movement...?

Then again, that could be dinosaurs... 1we8.gif

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Posted 03 April 2007 - 02:30 PM

QUOTE(Sunscorch @ Apr 3 2007, 10:29 PM) View Post
I thought it was better to stay as still as possible because it reacts to movement...?

Then again, that could be dinosaurs... 1we8.gif


Gay people, dinosaurs.. they are extremely tough to tell apart. I'd suggest running from both, just incase it's a gay dinosaur. All kinds of hell there. Oh noes! The homosexualsaurus! (insert punchline here)

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Posted 03 April 2007 - 02:31 PM

QUOTE(Kimoflea @ Apr 3 2007, 11:30 PM) View Post
Gay people, dinosaurs.. they are extremely tough to tell apart. I'd suggest running from both, just incase it's a gay dinosaur. All kinds of hell there.

LIKE BARNEY!

Good God, that scarred me for life x.x

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Posted 03 April 2007 - 02:32 PM

Who knows what kind of homosexual propaganda he force fed those children! Burn him at the stake!

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Posted 03 April 2007 - 02:32 PM

QUOTE(Kimoflea @ Apr 3 2007, 11:32 PM) View Post
Who knows what kind of homosexual propaganda he force fed those children! Burn him at the stake!

I love you,
You love me,
Let's tie Barney to a tree,

I forgot the rest sad.gif

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Posted 03 April 2007 - 02:39 PM

Build a fire
Cook his ass
Food for your whole family.

something like that.


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