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#1 Qaz

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Posted 20 March 2008 - 07:32 PM

http://www.darkroast...t-particle.html with pics too smile1.gif

so now they have a "time machine" that could either bring great things or the end of the world ohmy.gif
the thing is ginormous. I wonder if it will work.
what do you guys think?

#2 Twilight

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Posted 20 March 2008 - 07:37 PM

nahhh, time travel wouldn't happen for the next 500 years. plus if it did happen how the hell would time travel work? what if i travelled back in time and killed the person who invented the time machine?

#3 Black Flame

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Posted 20 March 2008 - 07:40 PM

...whoa.

That thing is massive. tongue.gif Methinks it has better potential to end the world/not work. Who knows though.

#4 Plew

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Posted 20 March 2008 - 07:44 PM

holy smokes its huge. time travel doesnt seem right to me.

#5 Twilight

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Posted 20 March 2008 - 07:45 PM

QUOTE (Plew @ Mar 20 2008, 07:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
holy smokes its huge. time travel doesnt seem right to me.


ya i know, it's all about fps right?

#6 Plew

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Posted 20 March 2008 - 07:49 PM

QUOTE (Twilight @ Mar 20 2008, 08:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
ya i know, it's all about fps right?

hell yes but stay on topic tongue.gif

did u know that when u travel fast ur actually traveling through time faster? also theres a lot of parts that might be missing or might fall off.

#7 Twilight

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Posted 20 March 2008 - 07:55 PM

did you knwo that albert einsteien has a theory that there a multiple times our lives are going on right now in different dimensions. so aka in another dimension your sitll 3 years old

#8 Qaz

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Posted 20 March 2008 - 08:04 PM

QUOTE (Plew @ Mar 20 2008, 10:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hell yes but stay on topic tongue.gif

did u know that when u travel fast ur actually traveling through time faster? also theres a lot of parts that might be missing or might fall off.



QUOTE (Twilight @ Mar 20 2008, 10:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
did you knwo that albert einsteien has a theory that there a multiple times our lives are going on right now in different dimensions. so aka in another dimension your sitll 3 years old

since when did this topic become the "did you know" topic !? huh.gif

anyways, i don't they'll get it working right away, but maybe, just maybe, someday they will. But, I think time travel should never be achieved because by going back in time, they'll just fuck up everything and destroy the world either way.


#9 Twilight

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Posted 20 March 2008 - 08:09 PM

haha totally true, we're so gonna mess up if we ever time travel.

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Posted 20 March 2008 - 08:19 PM

Not going to work. If they haven't already Mythbusters will get to it biggrin.gif I don't even think we have a grasp on how time travel works much less how to build a machine to do it.

#11 Grizzy

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Posted 20 March 2008 - 08:28 PM

time travel is a curse. one of the ultimate ends to the world.
that thing is just one huge waste of energy and I doubt if it works, we'll never understand it completely. Side effects ftw

Funny thing I just finished seeing a Stephen King about time travel >.>

Edited by desiresd, 20 March 2008 - 08:28 PM.


#12 Cataliste

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Posted 20 March 2008 - 08:32 PM

>.<

Time is such a delicate thing. Allow my explain.


They will not go back in time and change anything. If they had, it would already have been done. That is we would already be living the changed time continuum.

Also, the only thing that it is likely to produce is not a wormhole, but black holes. But don't get scared. They'll be microscopic black holes, they evaporate in less than half a second.

#13 Qaz

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Posted 20 March 2008 - 08:50 PM

QUOTE (Cataliste @ Mar 20 2008, 11:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
They will not go back in time and change anything. If they had, it would already have been done. That is we would already be living the changed time continuum.

Dammit, that makes perfect sense dry.gif

#14 Twilight

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Posted 20 March 2008 - 08:52 PM

so maybe we are living in some crazy demented world right now because somebody from the future changed time!?

#15 Cataliste

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Posted 20 March 2008 - 09:16 PM

QUOTE (Plew @ Mar 20 2008, 10:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hell yes but stay on topic tongue.gif

did u know that when u travel fast ur actually traveling through time faster? also theres a lot of parts that might be missing or might fall off.

That would be the theory of relativity, by Einstein. tongue.gif

QUOTE (Twilight @ Mar 20 2008, 10:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
did you knwo that albert einsteien has a theory that there a multiple times our lives are going on right now in different dimensions. so aka in another dimension your sitll 3 years old

No. He did not. Recheck your sauce.

QUOTE (Tetiel @ Mar 20 2008, 11:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not going to work. If they haven't already Mythbusters will get to it biggrin.gif I don't even think we have a grasp on how time travel works much less how to build a machine to do it.

We actually do know how it theoretically works. We just do not have the means to do it. IE light speed.

QUOTE (Qaz @ Mar 20 2008, 11:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Dammit, that makes perfect sense dry.gif

I am the one, the only, Cataliste.

#16 Twilight

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Posted 20 March 2008 - 09:22 PM

i swear i read it in some book. i just know it. of course i have bad memory though

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Posted 20 March 2008 - 09:25 PM

QUOTE (Plew @ Mar 20 2008, 11:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hell yes but stay on topic tongue.gif

did u know that when u travel fast ur actually traveling through time faster? also theres a lot of parts that might be missing or might fall off.

Actually, that is incorrect 1we8.gif There is only the "current moment." Time as you express it, is only the conscious memory's to find difference, which is from the constant movement of energy, which includes mass. The issue with this is that your memory itself is a function of energy. Time is relative to the perceiver and other outside forces interactions.

QUOTE (Twilight @ Mar 20 2008, 11:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
did you knwo that albert einsteien has a theory that there a multiple times our lives are going on right now in different dimensions. so aka in another dimension your sitll 3 years old

Actually, did you know that Einstein only made a single theory on the subject of multiverse and that it was the opposite of what you said?
Einstein theorized that the observed universe is the unique possible universe, so that the arguing and theorizing of "other" universes is meaningless.

What you are speaking of would be the work of Hugh Everett. Also, the only way that your "3 years old" dimension would work, would be for the measurements of time or the relativity of age to be different. Time itself would not change.

QUOTE (Tetiel @ Mar 21 2008, 12:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not going to work. If they haven't already Mythbusters will get to it biggrin.gif I don't even think we have a grasp on how time travel works much less how to build a machine to do it.

Time travel technically is not possible, it is only theorized that worm holes can pass through a theoretical expression of what time is. A black hole constantly compresses objects around it, adding to its mass, making its strength greater. Even black holes are theoretical, we only believe in their existence due to relating bodies motion. Black holes can not be measured as of current due to their nature, as no information can pass. The speed of light is the highest speed of which information can be transferred. A black hole's gravity is so strong that not even light can pass. The point of a black hole becomes so small that the black hole collapses. Unlike a black hole, a worm hole does not near infinitely compress objects to a point, but expands again through a "tear in space."
It is theorized that the nature of a worm hole would allow other intersecting wormholes to exchange bodies, though chaotically, leaving the possibility of a transfer to a universe in which a set state is the configuration of energy previous to what our original perceived universe was. A singular worm hole would likely just reconfigure matter and energy after incredible acceleration, the offset could more likely set this into negative space where anti-matter would remove its potential or into a different section of the universe. No matter would likely maintain more than its angular momentum.

QUOTE (Twilight @ Mar 21 2008, 12:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
so maybe we are living in some crazy demented world right now because somebody from the future changed time!?

No, because it would not exist due to the pre-existence of the time machine. Essentially as soon as someone thought of destroying the time machine or preventing its completion, it would not have the chance to be executed.

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Posted 20 March 2008 - 09:36 PM

time travel has already been achieved, even if only by a few fractions of milliseconds. I read it years ago in high school, in a science magazine in the library.

a speed was achieved which resulted in the ship returning with the time on board different from the clock it was synchronized with on earth.

BOOM! timetravel!


it was a pretty interesting article.

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Posted 20 March 2008 - 09:49 PM

QUOTE (foogie @ Mar 21 2008, 01:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
time travel has already been achieved, even if only by a few fractions of milliseconds. I read it years ago in high school, in a science magazine in the library.

a speed was achieved which resulted in the ship returning with the time on board different from the clock it was synchronized with on earth.

BOOM! timetravel!


it was a pretty interesting article.

BOOM! Still relativity 1we8.gif
Synchronization is never exact and due to that, they would be different if set at different velocities.

"Time travel" as you speak of has always been happening and never will stop happening tongue.gif

#20 Cataliste

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Posted 20 March 2008 - 09:54 PM

Yeah foogie. Just time relativity. Not travel. sad.gif

#21 foogie

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Posted 20 March 2008 - 09:57 PM

that article said time travel, so it was time travel. I'd get it for you all, but that volume haqs probably been reduced to the collage clipping piles.

#22 Cataliste

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Posted 20 March 2008 - 09:59 PM

QUOTE (foogie @ Mar 21 2008, 12:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
that article said time travel, so it was time travel. I'd get it for you all, but that volume haqs probably been reduced to the collage clipping piles.

The article was wrong. Sorry. It's really not time travel.

Trust Codex Physicists.

#23 foogie

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Posted 20 March 2008 - 10:33 PM

I TRUST OLD SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN MAGAZINE!

#24 Cataliste

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Posted 20 March 2008 - 10:35 PM

QUOTE (foogie @ Mar 21 2008, 01:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I TRUST OLD SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN MAGAZINE!

>.<

Ok. Can we ban people from certain threads? This is -not- a Foogie thread.

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Posted 20 March 2008 - 10:37 PM

I have the right to post whereverI want. >: D

thats the joys of the intranets.


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