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[DarkVision]

I believe in fate. Not any factless religion's.

[Elindoril]

I believe in fate. Not any factless religion's.

There isn't really any facts that go with fate, either.

[DarkVision]

There isn't really any facts that go with fate, either.

But Religion is forced upon us =]

[Mr. Hobo]

But Religion is forced upon us =]

Only the Abrahamic religions

[DarkVision]

Hell no. Christianity Here it is Shoved up our asses, In our mouths. Were quite literally raped by it.

Damn Bible Bashers knocking on mah door and start telling us about the lord and crap. My reply to them is "Jesus fucking christ for gods sake just piss off"

[Sweeney]

Hell no. Christianity Here it is Shoved up our asses, In our mouths. Were quite literally raped by it.

Damn Bible Bashers knocking on mah door and start telling us about the lord and crap. My reply to them is "Jesus fucking christ for gods sake just piss off"

Christianity is an Abrahamic religion...

[sircomflix]

I believe in fate. Not any factless religion's.

How can you believe in fate if you don't believe in a higher entity? (Assuming you are an atheist from your latter statement). Fate by definition means something that is inevitable or predetermined. If God or a higher entity doesn't exist, then how are these things preconceived?

As I grew up, I was an agnostic for a good portion. I wasn't really sure what to believe. It wasn't until I realized how incomprehensibly small humans are in the scope of the universe did I begin to think that the existence of God or a higher being was illogical. Only a tiny fraction of the universe is known, and in that known universe there are said to be up to 70 sextillion (22 zeros) stars. That many planets, solar systems, and galaxies leads me to believe that humans are nothing special and that God isn't either.

[artificial]

How can you believe in fate if you don't believe in a higher entity? (Assuming you are an atheist from your latter statement). Fate by definition means something that is inevitable or predetermined. If God or a higher entity doesn't exist, then how are these things preconceived?

As I grew up, I was an agnostic for a good portion. I wasn't really sure what to believe. It wasn't until I realized how incomprehensibly small humans are in the scope of the universe did I begin to think that the existence of God or a higher being was illogical. Only a tiny fraction of the universe is known, and in that known universe there are said to be up to 70 sextillion (22 zeros) stars. That many planets, solar systems, and galaxies leads me to believe that humans are nothing special and that God isn't either.

Determinism disregards a higher being, explaining fate and the outcomes of the universe as a complex cause and effect chain of events.

[Unseen]

Accept there might be one but he's not helping you. So why help him?

[KitsuKun]

All I can say because of who I am and my backround, I know their is beings higher than us. But as for heaven and hell, we find that out when we die. I don't know if there is a god or not. Neverseen him, and I am one of those if I see it Ill believe it, but not untill then....

[redlion]

My beliefs are based whenever possible upon a foundation of fact. Sacred texts are by far the least factual type of testimony one could believe. Plus there's the Euthyphro dilemma.

I'm a humanist and a buddhist, neither of which believes in heaven. My sacred books offer ways to better my life on earth, they don't prepare me for some unknown afterlife. Think about it, how can anyone in this life tell us about another life? Heaven and hell are bullshit archetypes created out of our need to be a part of something greater than ourselves.

And God is evil.
Ignorance is strength.
War is peace.

[DragonX]

Yes, I do.

[Mr. Hobo]

My beliefs are based whenever possible upon a foundation of fact. Sacred texts are by far the least factual type of testimony one could believe. Plus there's the Euthyphro dilemma.

I'm a humanist and a buddhist, neither of which believes in heaven. My sacred books offer ways to better my life on earth, they don't prepare me for some unknown afterlife. Think about it, how can anyone in this life tell us about another life? Heaven and hell are bullshit archetypes created out of our need to be a part of something greater than ourselves.

And God is evil.
Ignorance is strength.
War is peace.

Don't forget Freedom is Slavery

[redlion]

Don't forget Freedom is Slavery

I was paraphrasing, but yeah

Between Huxley and Vonnegut, I'm about as anti-authoritarian as can be.

[ibeaver]

I personally believe in God. People constantly bring up the fact that because there is no evidence of a God there must be no God however isn't that what religion is about, faith?

[artificial]

I personally believe in God. People constantly bring up the fact that because there is no evidence of a God there must be no God however isn't that what religion is about, faith?

Yes, but ultimately you are putting your faith in an ancient text that has no credibility, other than the billions of people that follow it blindly. Faith is a ridiculous concept; it is belief without evidence. Tens of thousands of scholars have no doubt produced texts suggesting alternate theories in regards to our creation. Why not put your faith in any of their work?

Face it: your faith stems from the popularity of Christianity and the fact that you have been exposed to it from a young age. You're a sheep, going with a crowd.

[Kaitan]

personally I am wiccan/pegan. I believe that the earth and all the elements are more than something for us to take. I believe there are a multitude of higher dietys to help us and guide us through life. and no wiccan/pegan does not mean I call forth demons or do spells like in harry potter I guess you could say I am a hippy without the non shaving and I have personal hygeine

Edit: I like Harry Potter so no I am not dissing it

Edited by emonemo, 10 March 2010 - 11:41 PM.

[Mr. Hobo]

I was paraphrasing, but yeah

Between Huxley and Vonnegut, I'm about as anti-authoritarian as can be.

Great, just added Slaughterhouse-Five to the enourmous list of books I plan to read

[redlion]

Great, just added Slaughterhouse-Five to the enourmous list of books I plan to read

Thats a good one. I just finished A Man Without A Country, which wasn't a novel so much as a monologue. I think it was the last book published before his death, but it isn't as cogent as his earlier work. All that is clear is his hatred of Bush, his environmental leanings, and his distrust of government. Still a good read. Slaughterhouse is better though

[Taki]

I semi-believe....i believe when i want to blame someone for watever goes wrong XD. Nah, not really. I believe in luck, though.

[srtm]

I was raised christian, but as I got older, my views have changed a little.
I still believe in God, because something must have created logical beings.

[artificial]

I still believe in God, because something must have created logical beings.

Not really. Evolution is a process by which, generally organisms go from simple->complex. It stands to reason that as billions of years pass certain organisms become more intelligent.

[Fatal]

I'm agnostic.... not sure. I'm not totally ruling out that a God couldn't exit, but science has leaned toward him not existing.

Not really. Evolution is a process by which, generally organisms go from simple->complex. It stands to reason that as billions of years pass certain organisms become more intelligent.

As we all know.... it still isn't explained how something can be created from nothing, and science hasn't explained that well yet.

[artificial]

I'm agnostic.... not sure. I'm not totally ruling out that a God couldn't exit, but science has leaned toward him not existing.



As we all know.... it still isn't explained how something can be created from nothing, and science hasn't explained that well yet.

Are you referencing to big bang? I fail to see how your statement has anything to do with evolution.

[Warriors]

nope..I believe in Marx..."Religion is the opiate of the masses..." its an organized cult...As for God..probably atheist.