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[AyoForYayo]

Negative.

[Mishelle]

I was raised Christian. I don't believe in God though.

[Sockoo]

Shhh, the invisible man may be watching you.

If "he" is watching me, "he" dont change nothing in my life

[DenyingSystems]

I don't believe there is anyone watching us up in the sky and we read The Mysterious Stranger by Mark Twain in class and this just reaffirmed myself. It's a short story about Satan, an angel who shows a group of boys some cool tricks (fire out of thin air, that sort of jazz) and then creates little people and has them build a castle. Satan then continues to destroy the little people, all the while humoring himself. It was a parallel reference to God just using us as his little toys and not giving a rat's ass about our well-being.

[luvsmyncis]

If "he" is watching me, "he" dont change nothing in my life

I wish he would change your grammar.

[Whyumad]

I believe in God but not in the religions, I mean everything had to originate from something...
But none of the bible stuff or whatever other sources there are!

[luvsmyncis]

I believe in God but not in the religions, I mean everything had to originate from something...
But none of the bible stuff or whatever other sources there are!

You believe in God, because everything 'had to originate from something', BUT you don't believe in the bible or whatever other sources God originated from.
Very interesting.

[Sockoo]

I wish he would change your grammar.

I don't speak english fluently --' , i'm brazilian

[luvsmyncis]

I don't speak english fluently --' , i'm brazilian

That's okay, I forgive you.

[Sockoo]

That's okay, I forgive you.

Thanks.

I think....

[jaredennisclark]

There seems to be two different views:

(1) people who assume that god doesn't exist because there is no proof that he exists.
(2) people who won't assume that god doesn't exist without proof that he doesn't exist.

I'm not much of a logician, so I can't figure out what's wrong with the second view, even though it doesn't seem right. After all, how do you prove that god doesn't exist? But people holding the second view are not assuming that god exists either, so it

Apply that second view to the following statement:

There is an invisible pink dragon in your room right now.

If one were to hold that second view to this, they would be unable to deny the existence of the pink dragon, or anything else I decided to think up in its place. It's quite obvious why this would be a problem. It isn't how scientific discourse works. (I suggest reading up on 'Russels Tea Pot' for a thorough explanation)
You seem also to have set up a false dichotomy. Those certainly aren't the only two lines of thinking a person can follow. For example, how about:

"Withholding judgment on the existence or non-existence of a God without evidence."

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I believe in God but not in the religions, I mean everything had to originate from something...

Says who?

Edited by jaredennisclark, 17 December 2010 - 08:40 AM.

[Sweeney]

I believe in God but not in the religions, I mean everything had to originate from something...
But none of the bible stuff or whatever other sources there are!

Click. Listen. Learn.

[Inver]

Definitely not. However, I don't believe it's my job to force people out of their faith either. I studied all the religions, came across a lot of interesting stories, realized they all just want me to be a decent person and moved on. I don't need the idea of an afterlife to propel me through my present state and I don't need to have a sense of meaning granted to me by an anonymous third party.

[Whyumad]

Click. Listen. Learn.

Well didn't really learn too much, but still liked his accent so I watched the whole thing.

[Sweeney]

Well didn't really learn too much, but still liked his accent so I watched the whole thing.

That's me.
And if you didn't understand, from the video, why your "everything needs an explanation, therefore god" nonsense is fallacious, then I think you might want to try watching it again.

[Whyumad]

That's me.
And if you didn't understand, from the video, why your "everything needs an explanation, therefore god" nonsense is fallacious, then I think you might want to try watching it again.

I never said it was fullproof but it's just something hold on to until something is proven for certain by science.

[Sweeney]

I never said it was fullproof but it's just something hold on to until something is proven for certain by science.

It can't be foolproof [sic] because it doesn't say anything useful.
It's utterly pointless.

[Whyumad]

It can't be foolproof [sic] because it doesn't say anything useful.
It's utterly pointless.

Well sometimes that belief is what one lives for so it's not utterly pointless.

[Sweeney]

Well sometimes that belief is what one lives for so it's not utterly pointless.

If your unshaking faith in Jesus is all you're living for, that's pathetic. And still pointless.

[nothereorthere]

there's someone i just don't know who

[Sweeney]

there's someone i just don't know who

I'm glad to see your faith is so deeply considered.

[Acheron]

"As a Republican Christian, I believe that scientific facts are optional and completely negated by my convenience, slogans or hunches. As such, I refuse to acknowledge Evolution. But my attempts to ignore this scientific theory seem so halfhearted compared to the efforts of the more industrious Sarah Palin. Sarah not only denies Evolution, she has refused to evolve. That, my friends, is dedication!" - Betty Bowers

Edited by Acheron, 22 December 2010 - 06:31 PM.

[Sweeney]

"As a Republican Christian, I believe that scientific facts are optional and completely negated by my convenience, slogans or hunches. As such, I refuse to acknowledge Evolution. But my attempts to ignore this scientific theory seem so halfhearted compared to the efforts of the more industrious Sarah Palin. Sarah not only denies Evolution, she has refused to evolve. That, my friends, is dedication!" - Betty Bowers

One wonders whether you agree with the sentiment, or just laugh at it...

[luvsmyncis]

there's someone i just don't know who

That sounds pretty intense. I'd call the police, if I were you. 

[Acheron]

One wonders whether you agree with the sentiment, or just laugh at it...

Oh, c'mon. That is obviously

Unless Christianity has descended into such a realm of stupid then...

-facepalm-